over time, the watch tower society has completely changed many of its beliefs.
for example, until recently, the wts said that the emblems of the memorial represented the church, the 144,000, that the emblems did not symbolize jesus.. at times, the wts changes the name of a belief while it continues the teaching, for example, the wts used to say that jesus and the 144,000 together were the "the christ".
today, the wts denies this teaching but the name "anointed" means "christ".. do you want to see what the watch tower reveals about these things and more?
The last mental struggle was to understand how a democratic society could become autocratic without having conducted a democratic election. It became clear that they were gradually pummeled into submission, with a process that took more than 20 years.
Isn't that how the WTS got to where it's at right now. Good things come to those who wait. (or shall we say, "Bad things come to those who wait")
in the article 'judgement day' published by jehovah's witness', they are saying,'in 'judgement day', the people who will be resurrected and had no chance to learn about god will not be judged according to their past deed but what will they do after resurrection.
' and they show the scripture roman6:7 which says"who has died has been acquitted from his sin.
" if we take out context and see it literally , it has that meaning but the scripture's contextual meaning is totally different, it doesn't talk about physical death but the death of old personality.so in this cotext, this cannot be applied.this is anacceptable to admit..
They are saying,'In 'Judgement Day', the people who will be resurrected and had no chance to learn about God will not be judged according to their past deed
"I never had a chance" 
"Neither did I"
i don't believe for a second that the wts can be god's chosen organization, if he does have an earthly one, especially one with such a hypocritical past.
but the question begs; why are there people professing having the heavenly calling usually found in the wts?.
does anyone know or have heard of other denominations having the genuine heavenly calling?.
why are there people professing having the heavenly calling usually found in the WTS?
For the same reason this person believes he is a leopard. 
it can be anywhere from 5 to 15 minutes!
as long as you've had a literature discussion three times, you can start counting it as a study.
first, they say you can now count only 15 minutes a month.
Do you think we'll be seeing negative growth anytime soon?
Did Bernie Madoff report negative growth?
i know this has been discussed, but i think it's good that topics like this get brought back up from time to time for the sake of newbies and lurkers, plus, i have a question (related at end of post).. the org brags about "forgiving" kh mortgages as if it's so loving and giving.
i put the word in quotation marks because most of us realize it wasn't forgiving anything.
the new arrangement should actually bring it far more money.. for example, suppose there are twenty congregations total.
Again, was it some kind of lending law change or something like that that prompted or forced the org to "forgive" loans?
Before the arrangement, the KHs were paying back a loan. After the new arrangement, it’s not considered a loan, it’s considered a contribution or a gift.
If I have a business that lends money, I have to report it as business income. The WT does not want to be labeled as a business. But if several people give me money, I have no business, someone was just nice enough to give me a gift and the giver is responsible for paying the tax on the gift, not me.
Who pays the gift tax?
The donor is generally responsible for paying the gift tax. Under special
arrangements the donee may agree to pay
the tax instead if he wishes.
original thread here.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/291080001/brave-high-school-student-exposes-abuse-corruption-within-jehovahs-witnesses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdvt_gyq-ls.
It led to Church elders coming over to my house to counsel me.They told me I was guilty of making him masturbate.
What would be great is if a News team interviewed those elders and ask them why they feel that a girl in a bikini causes people to masturbate? Do they still believe that masturbation causes homosexuality?
Ask the elders why a woman that is raped is disfellowshipped?
That would expose them even more to their craziness.
the governing body of the watchtower is not as immune as they might think..
anything can happen at any time to any organization no matter how big, how powerful, how religious or how long they been involved in wrongdoing.. .
fifa, the powerful and polarizing governing body for soccer, came under prosecutorial assault from two fronts wednesday.
The governing body of the Watchtower is not as immune as they might think.
Anything can happen at any time to any organization no matter how big, how powerful, how religious or how long they been involved in wrongdoing.
FIFA, the powerful and polarizing governing body for soccer, came under prosecutorial assault from two fronts Wednesday. The U.S. investigation targets alleged wrongdoing that spans 24 years. U.S. prosecutors issued arrest warrants for 14 people, on charges ranging from money laundering to fraud and racketeering. "It spans at least two generations of soccer officials who, as alleged, have abused their positions of trust to acquire millions of dollars in bribes and kickbacks.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/27/football/fifa-corruption-charges-justice-department/index.html
i received an email from one of the elder in the local congregation.
i am not dfed so there is not a problem there, i am just an aggressive fader.. one of the last things i said to this elder before i stopped all activities was that i do not agree with the borg taking all the assets from the congregations.. here is what the elder said in the email:.
"i recently saw something while looking through the jw broadcasting for the month of may and i though about you.
I am just an aggressive fader.
If you want to be successful at fading, then just blow him off and don't engage. If he confronts you about it, just say thanks and that you will think about it.
If you engage to try to help him wake up, your fading might turn into a Judicial Committee.
Is the effort to try to help him wake up worth the possible aggravation? Or is fading in peace a better option?
its inevitable that at some point in time, people will look back and see that the exjw community was right about the watchtower organization and the bible..
i have some friends who are catholic, protestant, and some who dont associate with any religion but believe jesus will come in their lifetime.
we are such a small minority compared to christians that we are viewed as ignorant when it comes to religious matters.
Black and white thinking again. You cannot use mathematics as a comparison to judgemental thinking
I disagree. Black and white thinking is a phrase, cliche, that is overused with no thought to the fact that life is not just about us vs them, and it not just about cults, but involves other complex interactions between humans that necessitates that a person make judgment calls that involve lives of people.
Seeing to many shades of grey is one of the reasons many people don’t qualify to lead in business. Seeing many shades of grey also causes others to struggle socially. There are so focused on seeing so many different ways that a situation can go that they just can’t decide what action to take. Example; “The tall one, the short one, the blond one the brunette until finally the person winds up alone. Black and white thinking is very necessary in many situations that involve judgmental thinking that affects not only the person making the judgment call but those that will be affected by it.
its inevitable that at some point in time, people will look back and see that the exjw community was right about the watchtower organization and the bible..
i have some friends who are catholic, protestant, and some who dont associate with any religion but believe jesus will come in their lifetime.
we are such a small minority compared to christians that we are viewed as ignorant when it comes to religious matters.
Magnum
My question is how long before a significant number of JWs realize we were right?
I think it happening right before our eyes Magnum. But we are so close to the situation that we see the ridges on the saw, intead of the direction the entire saw is traveling. I was in over 40 years, but I never saw the crazy changes in the organization like I have in the past 2 years.
Even if I hadn't learned TTATT and I was still in, I would be freaking out big time with all the changes. I would be forced to search for some answers on the internet. The fear of what is happening to the organization would override the fear of looking for answers in the internet. I am really curious to see what the organization will look like in 2020. It is definitely imploding.
